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Thursday, September 18, 2008
Lou Ella Godwin Otten (1882-1947), Part III
In Part I of my series, “Who was Louella Otten?” I presented 3 sets of documents that outlined the history of my 2nd great grandmother, Louella Otten.
1. Marriage record from Sharp Co., AR: Ella DAVIS married Alvin GODWIN, 1899
2. 1900 Sharp Co., AR census report: Lou A CARPENTER, daughter of Wm CARPENTER (step-sister Osieola DAVIS, daughter of Wm CARPENTER’s second wife, Dora NIX DAVIS, was also enumerated)
3. Obituary of Ella Otten: survivors included 3 CARPENTER brothers – Marlin, Ernest, and Willie; one half-sister, Nellie CARPENTER ECKERT, and one sister, Osieola DAVIS CLARK.
These sources put together indicate that Lou Ella was either a DAVIS or a CARPENTER. At first I thought she was a Carpenter because that is what the census report indicated and I have a bad habit of putting lots of stock in what census reports say. I learned my lesson this time.
I received a copy of Ella Otten’s death certificated obtained from the OK Department of Health this week. It clearly states that Ella’s father was Bill DAVIS and her mother was Dora NIX.
So lessons learned: Don’t believe everything you read!
Summary:
Lou Ella Davis was the daughter of Dora Nix who married first Bill Davis and second William Carpenter in Sharp Co., AR in 1890. Dora Nix Davis Carpenter was enumerated with her daughters, Lou Ella Davis and Oseola Davis in her new husband, William Carpenter's household in the 1900 Highland Township, Sharp Co., AR census report (Lou Ella was actually already married and enumerated with husband Alvin Godwin by this time as well). The Carpenter boys also listed on the census report were Lou Ella and Osceola's half-brothers. I believe the obituary was incorrect - the brothers were actually half brothers.
Lessons Learned about Family trees on Rootsweb
A fellow Godwin researcher sent me information from some family trees that were posted on rootsweb.com about the Dora Nix and James F. Davis family. I contacted the researchers who posted these trees to get more information about their research and to find out more information about this elusive James F. Davis.
In both of the trees, there were two daughters listed as children of Dora Nix and James F Davis. They were Osceiola Davis and Tillie Davis. According to the trees, Oscieola Davis married Samuel Walker Loyd and Tillie Davis married William E. Carpenter. William E. Carpenter was the son of Dora Nix Davis and her second husband, William Carpenter. If Tillie Davis were really the daughter of James F. Davis and Dora Nix, then that would mean that Tillie Davis married her half brother Willie Carpenter!
I questioned that situation and started digging. One of the trees referenced the file of Mike Peters. After some digging, I found a Pedigree Resource file Mike Peters had posted to the familysearch.org website. Sure enough, there was Dora and James F . Davis with two daughters: Tillie Davis (married William Carpenter) and Osieola Davis (married Samuel W. Loyd).
Mike Peters also posted marriage information on William Carpenter to Dora Davis to the Sharp Co., AR Marriage Record website. I found Mike's address and I wrote him a letter. In the letter, I asked him for source information for James, Tillie, and Osieola Davis.
My letter was received and answered!
In an email, Mike said he had the death certificate of his grandmother, Osieola Davis Clark (Los Angeles, CA). The certificate listed James F. Davis as Osieola's father. He also confirmed that Tillie Davis who married William E. Carpenter was not James and Dora Davis' daughter.
While looking through other files on familysearch.org, I found another user submitted Family Data Collection file posted by Nellie Mae Conklin on one Otala "Tillie" Aldrich who married William Carpenter, son of William Carpenter and Dora Nix Davis Carpenter! Tillie and William Everett Carpenter's death records can be found on the CA death record site.
Nellie Mae Conklin has published several books that are available in libraries across the country. She did submit to the LDS FHL a book on Tillie's Aldrich family, with some entries on the Carpenter family. However I was not able to borrow it through my local FHL because evidently they don't allow unmicrofilmed books to leave the library in Salt Lake City.
So...with the success of my last letter writing excursion fresh in my mind, I set off to write another letter to the 89 year old Nellie Mae Conklin in which I requested either a copy of the book or a copy of her Carpenter family entries from the book.
I am eagerly awaiting her reply.
There are many lessons learned in this essay:
Use user submitted rootseb family tree files as a guide only and don't believe everything your read as fact
Remember to dig deeper to find the actual sources of information
It illustrates how one small printed mistake can be reproduced for many years
Letter - writing can be successful!
In both of the trees, there were two daughters listed as children of Dora Nix and James F Davis. They were Osceiola Davis and Tillie Davis. According to the trees, Oscieola Davis married Samuel Walker Loyd and Tillie Davis married William E. Carpenter. William E. Carpenter was the son of Dora Nix Davis and her second husband, William Carpenter. If Tillie Davis were really the daughter of James F. Davis and Dora Nix, then that would mean that Tillie Davis married her half brother Willie Carpenter!
I questioned that situation and started digging. One of the trees referenced the file of Mike Peters. After some digging, I found a Pedigree Resource file Mike Peters had posted to the familysearch.org website. Sure enough, there was Dora and James F . Davis with two daughters: Tillie Davis (married William Carpenter) and Osieola Davis (married Samuel W. Loyd).
Mike Peters also posted marriage information on William Carpenter to Dora Davis to the Sharp Co., AR Marriage Record website. I found Mike's address and I wrote him a letter. In the letter, I asked him for source information for James, Tillie, and Osieola Davis.
My letter was received and answered!
In an email, Mike said he had the death certificate of his grandmother, Osieola Davis Clark (Los Angeles, CA). The certificate listed James F. Davis as Osieola's father. He also confirmed that Tillie Davis who married William E. Carpenter was not James and Dora Davis' daughter.
While looking through other files on familysearch.org, I found another user submitted Family Data Collection file posted by Nellie Mae Conklin on one Otala "Tillie" Aldrich who married William Carpenter, son of William Carpenter and Dora Nix Davis Carpenter! Tillie and William Everett Carpenter's death records can be found on the CA death record site.
Nellie Mae Conklin has published several books that are available in libraries across the country. She did submit to the LDS FHL a book on Tillie's Aldrich family, with some entries on the Carpenter family. However I was not able to borrow it through my local FHL because evidently they don't allow unmicrofilmed books to leave the library in Salt Lake City.
So...with the success of my last letter writing excursion fresh in my mind, I set off to write another letter to the 89 year old Nellie Mae Conklin in which I requested either a copy of the book or a copy of her Carpenter family entries from the book.
I am eagerly awaiting her reply.
There are many lessons learned in this essay:
Use user submitted rootseb family tree files as a guide only and don't believe everything your read as fact
Remember to dig deeper to find the actual sources of information
It illustrates how one small printed mistake can be reproduced for many years
Letter - writing can be successful!
Tuesday, September 9, 2008
Lou Ella Godwin Otten (1882-1947), Part I
Lou Ella Godwin Puzzle
According to Joyce Hambleton Whitten’s transcribed Arkansas Marriage Records, an Ellce or LouElla Davis, 19 yo, of Hardy, Sharp Co., AR married Allen or Alvin Godwin, 22 yo, also of Hardy, Sharp Co., AR on 14 Mar 1899. The marriage was officiated by W. E. Dark, witnessed by J. N. Pully.
In the 1900 Fulton County, Pleasant Ridge Township, AR census report taken 2 June 1900, Alvin Godwin was enumerated with his wife, Looeler? Godwin. Alvin Godwin was 21 years old, born Jan 1879, married 1 year, 0 kids, born in AR with father born in AR and mother born in MS. “Looeler?” Godwin, wife, was 18 years old, born Feb 1882 in AR, both parents born in TN.
This census report corroborates the approximate date of marriage and ages of Alvin and LouElla Godwin listed in the marriage record.
Alvin and Ella Godwin were enumerated again in the 1910 Fulton Co., Mammoth Springs, AR census report with their two children, Laura and Arvil Godwin:
Godwin, Alvin T. Head, 30 yo (b. abt 1880) Married 11 years (abt 1899), AR AR AR
Ella Wife, 30 yo (b. abt 1880), Married 11 years (abt 1899), 2 / 4 kids living AR TN AR
Laura 8 Daugh AR AR AR
Arvil 6 Son AR AR AR
Alvin and Ella divorced sometime between 1910 and 1920. By 1920, Alvin was back living with his parents in Mammoth Springs at age 40, was divorced and an Ella “McGee” was found in Shawnee, Pottawatomie, Co. OK. The census states she is married, born in TN around 1886 (34 years old) with two kids - Lorine O, 17 born in MO and Orvale L, 15, born in MO. The children's ages match up, however, Ella's age is off and the census lists the kids' birthplace as MO instead of AR.
By the time the1930 census was enumerated, Lou Ella was married to Nace Robert Otten. They were listed in the 1930 Shawnee, Pottawatomie Co., OK census report: N Robert Otten was 42 yo, married, b. in MO; railroad conductor; WWI vet, Ella Otten, was wife, 44 yo, married, b. TN, both parents born in TN;
This past fall we found the obituaries of both Lou Ella and Nace Otten at the Shawnee public library, as well we photographed the headstones placed on their graves in Fairview Cemetery, Shawnee, OK. The obituaries brought up some interesting questions about exactly who was Alvin Godwin married to? The marriage record said Alvin Godwin married Lou Ella DAVIS. However according to the obituaries, Lou Ella had 3 brothers with the last name of CARPENTER. So did Alvin Godwin marry Lou Ella Davis or Carpenter? Was Lou Ella married to a Davis before marrying Alvin?
Here are the transcripts from the death notices and obituaries:
Shawnee (Okla.) News-Star, Friday, July 18, 1947
Deaths
Funeral Pending For Mrs. Otten, Railroader’s Wife
Mrs. Ella Otten, 62, of 431 North Aydelotte, died Thursday at 4:15 p.m. in a local hospital as result of a heart attack suffered about 10 days ago.
She was the wife of N. R. Otten, Rock Island conductor.
Funeral services are being arranged by Gaskill’s.
Mrs. Otten came to Shawnee in 1910 from Hardy, Ark. She was a member of the first Presbyterian church and the Ladies Auxiliary to the Brotherhood of Railway Trainmen.
Surviving besides her husband are one son, Orville Godwin of Tulsa, one sister, Mrs. Ed Clark, Los Angeles, a half sister, Mrs. Roy Eckert, Shwanee, and three brothers. The brothers are Ernest and Marland Carpenter of Hardy, Ark., and Willie Carpenter, Los Angeles. Mrs. Otten also leaves nine grandchildren.
[Microfilm No. XVI-378-406 from the Shawnee, OK public library]
Shawnee (Okla.) News-Star, Sunday, July 20, 1947 (p. 2A)
Deaths
Otten Services Set for Monday
Funeral services for Mrs. Ella Otten. 62. 431 North Aydelotte, who died Thursday in a local hospital will be held Monday at 2 p. m.
Services will be held in the Gaskill chapel with Rev. Claybron Derring in charge. Burial will be at Fairview cemetery.
Mrs. Otten was a member of the Central Presbyterian church and the Laides Auxiliary to the Brotherhood of Railway Trainmen. She had lived in Shawnee since 1910, coming from Hardy, Arkansas.
Bearers will be Henry Martell, O. Beeson, Wallace Doss, Robert Freeman, Edmond Kitchell and Sam Hewlett.
[Microfilm No. XVI-378-406 from the Shawnee, OK public library]
I did find the three brothers listed in the obituary as children living in the household of William Carpenter in Highland Township, Sharp Co., AR in 1900:
Highland Twp., ED 119, enumerated 4-5 June 1900, T623, Roll 77, p 44
William Carpenter, head, white male, b. sept 1844, 55 yo, Married 10 years, IL, Unk Unk, farmer, owned free farm
Dora B or E Carpenter, wife, white female, b. June 1864, 35 yo, married 10 years, 6/8 children living, TN TN TN
Lou A Carpenter, daughter, white female, b. Feb 1882, 18 yo, single, AR IL IL
Oceola Davis, step-daughter, white female, b. Jan 1885, 15 yo, single, AR TN TN
Acy Carpenter, son, white male, b. Jan 1892, 8 yo, single, AR IL TN
Willie Carpenter, son, white male, b. July 184, 5 yo, single, AR IL TN
Marlin Carpenter, son, white male, b. Oct 1896, 3 yo, single, AR IL TN
Ernest Carpenter, son, white male, b. May 1899, 1 yo, single, AR IL TN
1910 Sharp Co., AR census report:
Dora Carpenter, head, 45 yo (b. abt 1865), widow, 6/6 children, TN TN TN
Willie Carpenter, 15 yo (b. abt 1895), single, AR IL TN
Marlin Carpenter, 13 yo (b. abt 1897), single, AR IL TN
Ernest Carpenter, 10 yo (b. abt 1900), single, AR IL TN
Nellie Carpenter, 5 yo (b. abt 1905), single, AR IL TN
However, as I mentioned earlier, my Lou Ella Godwin was enumerated with Alvin Godwin in Pleasant Ridge, Fulton Co., AR, 2 June 1900. She was born Feb 1882 according to both census reports, so it is possible she was enumerated twice. There is mention of a DAVIS living in the family’s household in 1900, she was Ocealo Davis, 15 years old, born about 1885, step daughter of William Carpenter.
So what should I do with this information? Should I attach my Lou Ella to William Carpenter? Did she marry a Davis before marrying my Alvin Godwin at the age of 19? Or is it more than a coincidence that she had a step sister with the last name of Davis? Was she really Dora Davis' daughter and William Carpenter's step daughter?
Continued on Part II
According to Joyce Hambleton Whitten’s transcribed Arkansas Marriage Records, an Ellce or LouElla Davis, 19 yo, of Hardy, Sharp Co., AR married Allen or Alvin Godwin, 22 yo, also of Hardy, Sharp Co., AR on 14 Mar 1899. The marriage was officiated by W. E. Dark, witnessed by J. N. Pully.
In the 1900 Fulton County, Pleasant Ridge Township, AR census report taken 2 June 1900, Alvin Godwin was enumerated with his wife, Looeler? Godwin. Alvin Godwin was 21 years old, born Jan 1879, married 1 year, 0 kids, born in AR with father born in AR and mother born in MS. “Looeler?” Godwin, wife, was 18 years old, born Feb 1882 in AR, both parents born in TN.
This census report corroborates the approximate date of marriage and ages of Alvin and LouElla Godwin listed in the marriage record.
Alvin and Ella Godwin were enumerated again in the 1910 Fulton Co., Mammoth Springs, AR census report with their two children, Laura and Arvil Godwin:
Godwin, Alvin T. Head, 30 yo (b. abt 1880) Married 11 years (abt 1899), AR AR AR
Ella Wife, 30 yo (b. abt 1880), Married 11 years (abt 1899), 2 / 4 kids living AR TN AR
Laura 8 Daugh AR AR AR
Arvil 6 Son AR AR AR
Alvin and Ella divorced sometime between 1910 and 1920. By 1920, Alvin was back living with his parents in Mammoth Springs at age 40, was divorced and an Ella “McGee” was found in Shawnee, Pottawatomie, Co. OK. The census states she is married, born in TN around 1886 (34 years old) with two kids - Lorine O, 17 born in MO and Orvale L, 15, born in MO. The children's ages match up, however, Ella's age is off and the census lists the kids' birthplace as MO instead of AR.
By the time the1930 census was enumerated, Lou Ella was married to Nace Robert Otten. They were listed in the 1930 Shawnee, Pottawatomie Co., OK census report: N Robert Otten was 42 yo, married, b. in MO; railroad conductor; WWI vet, Ella Otten, was wife, 44 yo, married, b. TN, both parents born in TN;
This past fall we found the obituaries of both Lou Ella and Nace Otten at the Shawnee public library, as well we photographed the headstones placed on their graves in Fairview Cemetery, Shawnee, OK. The obituaries brought up some interesting questions about exactly who was Alvin Godwin married to? The marriage record said Alvin Godwin married Lou Ella DAVIS. However according to the obituaries, Lou Ella had 3 brothers with the last name of CARPENTER. So did Alvin Godwin marry Lou Ella Davis or Carpenter? Was Lou Ella married to a Davis before marrying Alvin?
Here are the transcripts from the death notices and obituaries:
Shawnee (Okla.) News-Star, Friday, July 18, 1947
Deaths
Funeral Pending For Mrs. Otten, Railroader’s Wife
Mrs. Ella Otten, 62, of 431 North Aydelotte, died Thursday at 4:15 p.m. in a local hospital as result of a heart attack suffered about 10 days ago.
She was the wife of N. R. Otten, Rock Island conductor.
Funeral services are being arranged by Gaskill’s.
Mrs. Otten came to Shawnee in 1910 from Hardy, Ark. She was a member of the first Presbyterian church and the Ladies Auxiliary to the Brotherhood of Railway Trainmen.
Surviving besides her husband are one son, Orville Godwin of Tulsa, one sister, Mrs. Ed Clark, Los Angeles, a half sister, Mrs. Roy Eckert, Shwanee, and three brothers. The brothers are Ernest and Marland Carpenter of Hardy, Ark., and Willie Carpenter, Los Angeles. Mrs. Otten also leaves nine grandchildren.
[Microfilm No. XVI-378-406 from the Shawnee, OK public library]
Shawnee (Okla.) News-Star, Sunday, July 20, 1947 (p. 2A)
Deaths
Otten Services Set for Monday
Funeral services for Mrs. Ella Otten. 62. 431 North Aydelotte, who died Thursday in a local hospital will be held Monday at 2 p. m.
Services will be held in the Gaskill chapel with Rev. Claybron Derring in charge. Burial will be at Fairview cemetery.
Mrs. Otten was a member of the Central Presbyterian church and the Laides Auxiliary to the Brotherhood of Railway Trainmen. She had lived in Shawnee since 1910, coming from Hardy, Arkansas.
Bearers will be Henry Martell, O. Beeson, Wallace Doss, Robert Freeman, Edmond Kitchell and Sam Hewlett.
[Microfilm No. XVI-378-406 from the Shawnee, OK public library]
I did find the three brothers listed in the obituary as children living in the household of William Carpenter in Highland Township, Sharp Co., AR in 1900:
Highland Twp., ED 119, enumerated 4-5 June 1900, T623, Roll 77, p 44
William Carpenter, head, white male, b. sept 1844, 55 yo, Married 10 years, IL, Unk Unk, farmer, owned free farm
Dora B or E Carpenter, wife, white female, b. June 1864, 35 yo, married 10 years, 6/8 children living, TN TN TN
Lou A Carpenter, daughter, white female, b. Feb 1882, 18 yo, single, AR IL IL
Oceola Davis, step-daughter, white female, b. Jan 1885, 15 yo, single, AR TN TN
Acy Carpenter, son, white male, b. Jan 1892, 8 yo, single, AR IL TN
Willie Carpenter, son, white male, b. July 184, 5 yo, single, AR IL TN
Marlin Carpenter, son, white male, b. Oct 1896, 3 yo, single, AR IL TN
Ernest Carpenter, son, white male, b. May 1899, 1 yo, single, AR IL TN
1910 Sharp Co., AR census report:
Dora Carpenter, head, 45 yo (b. abt 1865), widow, 6/6 children, TN TN TN
Willie Carpenter, 15 yo (b. abt 1895), single, AR IL TN
Marlin Carpenter, 13 yo (b. abt 1897), single, AR IL TN
Ernest Carpenter, 10 yo (b. abt 1900), single, AR IL TN
Nellie Carpenter, 5 yo (b. abt 1905), single, AR IL TN
However, as I mentioned earlier, my Lou Ella Godwin was enumerated with Alvin Godwin in Pleasant Ridge, Fulton Co., AR, 2 June 1900. She was born Feb 1882 according to both census reports, so it is possible she was enumerated twice. There is mention of a DAVIS living in the family’s household in 1900, she was Ocealo Davis, 15 years old, born about 1885, step daughter of William Carpenter.
So what should I do with this information? Should I attach my Lou Ella to William Carpenter? Did she marry a Davis before marrying my Alvin Godwin at the age of 19? Or is it more than a coincidence that she had a step sister with the last name of Davis? Was she really Dora Davis' daughter and William Carpenter's step daughter?
Continued on Part II
Lou Ella Godwin Otten (1882-1947), Part II
Lou Ella Godwin Puzzle, Part II
Previously, I posted information on Lou Ella Otten, 1882-1947. This post is a continuation of the question of who are Lou Ella Otten's parents?
Recap: Lou Ella DAVIS married Alvin GODWIN in Sharp Co., AR in 1899, therefore I predicted that Lou Ella's surname was DAVIS. However her obituary of 1947 stated she had 3 brothers with the CARPENTER surname. I then went on a quest to determine if Lou Ella was a DAVIS or CARPENTER. Most of the evidence presented below lean towards her being a CARPENTER. However I still have to ask the question of why her marriage record stated her last name was DAVIS. One might simply answer that she was previously married to a DAVIS prior to marrying my Alvin GODWIN (at the age of 19). However, in the census report of Lou Ella's family we find a step sister by the name of Oscielo DAVIS and a marriage record between Lou Ella's father, William Carpenter, and a Dora DAVIS. Therefore, I am inclined to believe that the mixup was with Lou Ella and her step mom's family.
I found Lou Ella's family in the census reports. I have listed them chronologically, and you will see Lou Ella's "Carpenter brothers" in the 1900 census report with her. Nellie Carpenter, her "sister" who married Roy Eckert, did not show up until the 1910 census report. Their father was William Carpenter, b. abt 1844:
1870 Douglas Co., MO census report:
William Carpenter, 28 yo (abt 1842), farmer, value of personal estate: $1238, IL
Catharine Carpenter, 26yo (abt 1844), Keeping house, IL
Ellenora Carpenter, 5 yo (b. abt 1865), IL
George M Carpenter, 3 yo (b. abt 1867), IL
Franklin Carpenter, 1 yo (b. abt 1869), MO
William and Catherine Carpenter moved from Douglas Co., MO to Izard Co., AR between 1870 and 1875. According to the 1880 Izard Co., AR census report, the two youngest children, George and Franklin, moved with them, three more children were born, and Ellenora, the oldest, was no longer living in the household - she would have been only 15 years old:
1880 Izard Co., AR, Lafferty Creek Township, enum 84, July 5 1880, Lines 59-60
William Carpenter w m 38 yo (b. abt 1842) farmer IL TN TN
Catharine Carpenter w f 31 yo (b. abt 1849) wife m khouse IL VA VA
George B.Mc. Carpenter w m 13 yo (b. abt 1867) son s works on fm IL IL IL
Franklin Carpenter w m 11 yo (b. abt 1869), son s works on fm MO IL IL
Charles Carpenter w m 9 yo (b. abt 1871), son s works on fm MO IL IL
Wm. S. Carpenter w m 5 (b. abt 1875), son s AR IL IL
Sherwood Carpenter w m 1 (b. abt 1879) son s AR IL IL
- So far William and Catherine have at least 6 Carpenter children
On 12 Feb 1890 in Sharp Co., AR, William Carpenter is remarried to Dora C. DAVIS and they are enumerated on the 1900 Sharp Co., AR census report:
1900 Sharp Co., Highland Twp AR census report:
Highland Twp., ED 119, enumerated 4-5 June 1900, T623, Roll 77, p 44
William Carpenter, head, white male, b. sept 1844, 55 yo, Married 10 years, IL, Unk Unk, farmer, owned free farm
Dora C Carpenter, wife, b. June 1864, 35 yo, married 10 years, 6/8 children living, TN TN TN
1. Lou A Carpenter, daughter, white female, b. Feb 1882, 18 yo, single, AR IL IL – Born before Wm married Dora, so probably daughter of Wm and Catherine Carpenter and probably my Louella. Her father's birthplace, IL, matches with that of William Carpenters'; My Louella was also enumerated with her husband of 1 year, Alvin Godwin, in the 1900 Fulton Co., Pleasant Ridge, AR census report.
2. Oceola DAVIS, step-daughter, white female, b. Jan 1885, 15 yo, single, AR TN TN – Also born before Wm and Dora were married in 1890, so probably Dora’s from a previous marriage as this child has the same surname that Dora had before marrying Wm Carpenter
3. Acy Carpenter, son, white male, b. Jan 1892, 8 yo, single, AR IL TN
4. Willie Carpenter, son, white male, b. July 1894, 5 yo, single, AR IL TN
5. Marlin Carpenter, son, white male, b. Oct 1896, 3 yo, single, AR IL TN
6. Ernest Carpenter, son, white male, b. May 1899, 1 yo, single, AR IL TN
* There are 6 children listed in this census report.
Willie, Marlin, and Ernest Carpenter are the 3 “brothers” listed in Lou ella’s obituary
1910 Sharp Co., AR census report:
Dora Carpenter, head, 45 yo (b. abt 1865), widow, 6/6 children, TN TN TN
Willie Carpenter, son, 15 yo (b. abt 1895), single, AR IL TN
Marlin Carpenter, son, 13 yo (b. abt 1897), single, AR IL TN
Ernest Carpenter, son, 10 yo (b. abt 1900), single, AR IL TN
Nellie Carpenter, dau, 5 yo (b. abt 1905), single, AR IL TN
According to Lou Ella Otten’s obituary, she had 3 “brothers” – Willie, Marlin, and Ernest Carpenter – Assuming Lou Ella is the “Lou A. Carpenter, 18 yo, b. Feb 1882” listed in the 1900 census report and is really a child of Wm Carpenter and his first wife, Catherine, then the 3 boys must actually be half brothers (they were children of Wm and 2nd wife Dora).
The “half sister” Mrs. Roy Eckert, mentioned in Lou Ella Otten's obituary is actually Nellie Carpenter, daughter of Wm and Dora (2nd wife) Carpenter and sister of the 3 boys, but truly a half sister of Lou Ella, so that part of the obit is correct.
Mrs. Ed Clark of Los Angeles was Osceola Davis. She was listed as an actual “sister” to my Lou Ella Otten but she was probably a step sister. She was listed in the California Death Records: Oceola Clark: b. 20 Jan 1885 in AR; d. 22 Mar 1955 in Los Angeles, CA; Mothers maiden name was Nix. Father's name was Davis. (no social security number given).
According to all of the above information, it looks as though Lou Ella Otten was a Carpenter, and the daughter of William Carpenter and his first wife, Catherine Warner. Lou Ella was born 26 Feb 1882, therefore she could not be the daughter of William and his second wife, Dora Carpenter because Dora did not marry William Carpenter until 1890.
If these assumptions are correct, then why does Lou Ella’s marriage record say Lou Ella Davis?
And why does her obituary state that Mrs. Ed Clark (Osciala Davis) was a “sister” when she would have really been a step sister?
And why does it say the 3 Carpenter men were “brothers” instead of half brothers, especially when it states that Nellie (Mrs. Roy Eckert) was a “half-sister?”
Related Posts:
Lou Ella Godwin Otten (1882-1947) Part I
Lou Ella Godwin Otten (1882-1947) Part III
Previously, I posted information on Lou Ella Otten, 1882-1947. This post is a continuation of the question of who are Lou Ella Otten's parents?
Recap: Lou Ella DAVIS married Alvin GODWIN in Sharp Co., AR in 1899, therefore I predicted that Lou Ella's surname was DAVIS. However her obituary of 1947 stated she had 3 brothers with the CARPENTER surname. I then went on a quest to determine if Lou Ella was a DAVIS or CARPENTER. Most of the evidence presented below lean towards her being a CARPENTER. However I still have to ask the question of why her marriage record stated her last name was DAVIS. One might simply answer that she was previously married to a DAVIS prior to marrying my Alvin GODWIN (at the age of 19). However, in the census report of Lou Ella's family we find a step sister by the name of Oscielo DAVIS and a marriage record between Lou Ella's father, William Carpenter, and a Dora DAVIS. Therefore, I am inclined to believe that the mixup was with Lou Ella and her step mom's family.
I found Lou Ella's family in the census reports. I have listed them chronologically, and you will see Lou Ella's "Carpenter brothers" in the 1900 census report with her. Nellie Carpenter, her "sister" who married Roy Eckert, did not show up until the 1910 census report. Their father was William Carpenter, b. abt 1844:
1870 Douglas Co., MO census report:
William Carpenter, 28 yo (abt 1842), farmer, value of personal estate: $1238, IL
Catharine Carpenter, 26yo (abt 1844), Keeping house, IL
Ellenora Carpenter, 5 yo (b. abt 1865), IL
George M Carpenter, 3 yo (b. abt 1867), IL
Franklin Carpenter, 1 yo (b. abt 1869), MO
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| 1870 Douglas Co., MO Census Report for William and Catherine Carpenter |
William and Catherine Carpenter moved from Douglas Co., MO to Izard Co., AR between 1870 and 1875. According to the 1880 Izard Co., AR census report, the two youngest children, George and Franklin, moved with them, three more children were born, and Ellenora, the oldest, was no longer living in the household - she would have been only 15 years old:
1880 Izard Co., AR, Lafferty Creek Township, enum 84, July 5 1880, Lines 59-60
William Carpenter w m 38 yo (b. abt 1842) farmer IL TN TN
Catharine Carpenter w f 31 yo (b. abt 1849) wife m khouse IL VA VA
George B.Mc. Carpenter w m 13 yo (b. abt 1867) son s works on fm IL IL IL
Franklin Carpenter w m 11 yo (b. abt 1869), son s works on fm MO IL IL
Charles Carpenter w m 9 yo (b. abt 1871), son s works on fm MO IL IL
Wm. S. Carpenter w m 5 (b. abt 1875), son s AR IL IL
Sherwood Carpenter w m 1 (b. abt 1879) son s AR IL IL
- So far William and Catherine have at least 6 Carpenter children
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| 1880 Izard Co., AR Census Report for William and Catherine Carpenter, p. 1 |
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| 1880 Izard Co., AR Census Report for William and Catherine Carpenter, p. 2 |
On 12 Feb 1890 in Sharp Co., AR, William Carpenter is remarried to Dora C. DAVIS and they are enumerated on the 1900 Sharp Co., AR census report:
1900 Sharp Co., Highland Twp AR census report:
Highland Twp., ED 119, enumerated 4-5 June 1900, T623, Roll 77, p 44
William Carpenter, head, white male, b. sept 1844, 55 yo, Married 10 years, IL, Unk Unk, farmer, owned free farm
Dora C Carpenter, wife, b. June 1864, 35 yo, married 10 years, 6/8 children living, TN TN TN
1. Lou A Carpenter, daughter, white female, b. Feb 1882, 18 yo, single, AR IL IL – Born before Wm married Dora, so probably daughter of Wm and Catherine Carpenter and probably my Louella. Her father's birthplace, IL, matches with that of William Carpenters'; My Louella was also enumerated with her husband of 1 year, Alvin Godwin, in the 1900 Fulton Co., Pleasant Ridge, AR census report.
2. Oceola DAVIS, step-daughter, white female, b. Jan 1885, 15 yo, single, AR TN TN – Also born before Wm and Dora were married in 1890, so probably Dora’s from a previous marriage as this child has the same surname that Dora had before marrying Wm Carpenter
3. Acy Carpenter, son, white male, b. Jan 1892, 8 yo, single, AR IL TN
4. Willie Carpenter, son, white male, b. July 1894, 5 yo, single, AR IL TN
5. Marlin Carpenter, son, white male, b. Oct 1896, 3 yo, single, AR IL TN
6. Ernest Carpenter, son, white male, b. May 1899, 1 yo, single, AR IL TN
* There are 6 children listed in this census report.
Willie, Marlin, and Ernest Carpenter are the 3 “brothers” listed in Lou ella’s obituary
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| 1900 Sharp Co., AR Census Report for William and Dora Carpenter |
1910 Sharp Co., AR census report:
Dora Carpenter, head, 45 yo (b. abt 1865), widow, 6/6 children, TN TN TN
Willie Carpenter, son, 15 yo (b. abt 1895), single, AR IL TN
Marlin Carpenter, son, 13 yo (b. abt 1897), single, AR IL TN
Ernest Carpenter, son, 10 yo (b. abt 1900), single, AR IL TN
Nellie Carpenter, dau, 5 yo (b. abt 1905), single, AR IL TN
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| 1910 Sharp Co., AR Census Report for Dora Carpenter |
According to Lou Ella Otten’s obituary, she had 3 “brothers” – Willie, Marlin, and Ernest Carpenter – Assuming Lou Ella is the “Lou A. Carpenter, 18 yo, b. Feb 1882” listed in the 1900 census report and is really a child of Wm Carpenter and his first wife, Catherine, then the 3 boys must actually be half brothers (they were children of Wm and 2nd wife Dora).
The “half sister” Mrs. Roy Eckert, mentioned in Lou Ella Otten's obituary is actually Nellie Carpenter, daughter of Wm and Dora (2nd wife) Carpenter and sister of the 3 boys, but truly a half sister of Lou Ella, so that part of the obit is correct.
Mrs. Ed Clark of Los Angeles was Osceola Davis. She was listed as an actual “sister” to my Lou Ella Otten but she was probably a step sister. She was listed in the California Death Records: Oceola Clark: b. 20 Jan 1885 in AR; d. 22 Mar 1955 in Los Angeles, CA; Mothers maiden name was Nix. Father's name was Davis. (no social security number given).
According to all of the above information, it looks as though Lou Ella Otten was a Carpenter, and the daughter of William Carpenter and his first wife, Catherine Warner. Lou Ella was born 26 Feb 1882, therefore she could not be the daughter of William and his second wife, Dora Carpenter because Dora did not marry William Carpenter until 1890.
If these assumptions are correct, then why does Lou Ella’s marriage record say Lou Ella Davis?
And why does her obituary state that Mrs. Ed Clark (Osciala Davis) was a “sister” when she would have really been a step sister?
And why does it say the 3 Carpenter men were “brothers” instead of half brothers, especially when it states that Nellie (Mrs. Roy Eckert) was a “half-sister?”
Related Posts:
Lou Ella Godwin Otten (1882-1947) Part I
Lou Ella Godwin Otten (1882-1947) Part III
Tuesday, September 2, 2008
I found a picture of Lou Ella Otten's nephew, Davis T. Loyd
Here is a picture of Davis T. Loyd taken May 1954 in Los Angeles, CA. From my grandfather's personal collection. Davis T. Loyd was the nephew of my 2nd great grandmother, Lou Ella Otten. Davis was the son of Lou Ella’s sister, Osieola Davis Loyd. This picture was probably sent to us from Osieola Davis Loyd. I have recently been in contact with Davis’ nephew, Mike Peters and have shared these photos of his uncle with him.
Here is a picture of Davis T. Loyd and his wife, taken in Los Angeles, CA. From my grandfather's personal collection.
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